Mike A wrote:I notice Mr Smooth's style is not quite what you call 'kayak' though - when the recovering arm enters the water the other is just about midway through the pull, hand roughly level with the shoulder. It doesn't leave the water until the next kick (by which time the leading arm is fully extended). You could even argue that Mr Smooth is just about Front Quadrant, since his hands cross just ahead of the shoulder - though he certainly doesn't glide as much as a TI swimmer.
dslippy wrote:It seems to me that TI teaches some extremely important elements of the stroke. Learning how to slice through the water with the minimum resistance is vital. TI makes no particular claim I have seen to be an effective sprinting stroke.
At the same time, almost as expensive as resistance is acceleration. To the extent therefore that you allow any deceleration in a longer stroke through too great a patience, you are asking for an expensive waste of energy.
The longer stroke does help to allow a stronger catch and powerful pull.
A well timed and effective kick can help avoid a loss of speed and position the body to maximise the pull.
Where will that leave us?
TI has very clear value, but in the desire to reduce drag, you can lose sight of the need to avoid any loss of speed. A balance has to be found. Take the TI skills, add in the excellent technique tips here, and be ready to listen to your how you feel in the water to attain the technique and speed best suited to the immediate task.
I doubt very much there is any real conflict between TI and swimsmooth - it is not TI 'v' SS. it is I hope finding your own balance with them.
Adam Young wrote:Fascinating discussion about how you guys see our work - please keep it coming! I'm going to leave it undistorted by not getting involved in the discussions.
Quick thing on Bill Kirby's stroke, yes he's very catch-up style when demonstrating in our DVD Boxset. When he was racing he switched to a much more conventional stroke timing:
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